Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

[hsp25]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing


By throttling I mean running below it's standard ghz instead of an OC (amd turbo)as it should have been. I'm not purposely overclocking (well technically OC yes) only using default bios setting. It may have been the wrong term to use. Maybe the pic will tell you more. MB was coolish and cpu was hot. No bent pins and non missing that I can tell. Other two cpu ran as they should. The 1090t uses allot more power so should be worse but it seems faultless although runs a little hot with this cooler

Any thoughts on the cooler I linked?

[hsp25]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

The case is as much of a mystery to me as it is to you sorry. I think it had ac dc symbol on the front but child ripped that off along with a small front flap door at the bottom. It has 120mm fan front,120mm fan rear and 80mm fan on the side. I got it from a work college who had it in his farm shed collecting dust. It was free. I swapped his old pc out of it.I'm thinking of buying a gaming case but that will have to be an early birthday pressant as this started out just wanting more HDD space and was my brainwave to upgrade.

I'm sure it will be a good thing once it's going properly

[- wardog -]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

Idea!

Do you have the original OEM AMD 1090T heatsink? The one with heat pipes?

[hsp25]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

Yeah but for some reason I've found it really hard to put on. It seems to tight but I know it should fit

[- wardog -]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

Yeah but for some reason I've found it really hard to put on. It seems to tight but I know it should fit

I ran into that once myself. The one I ran into this with was dog eared at the four corners instead of four square corners.

And like you I didn't proceed either. Too much torque it seemed was req'd to "lock' it down.

Blue or black lever?

Meh, t'was just a thought to maybe save you some money.

That linked cooler. Can he wait till "ETA: 20/01/14" as is shown on the page? No experiences with it but it 'looks' good.

[- wardog -]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

I ran into that once myself. The one I ran into this with was dog eared at the four corners instead of four square corners.

On the copper base, dog eared.

[- wardog -]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

Phew! I keep forgetting the prices you guys pay for "goodies' down there.

Someones damn proud of their transportation costs and not a bit afraid of passing them along.

[hsp25]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

yep cooler sounds like the same problem.1090 cooler=black lever and FX-6300=blue lever. He uses the 1090t here when.. if he visits so I want to keep that together
I got the ****s and told him he can just lend a 4 core HD5770 pc we don't use that I had sitting here till this is fixed properly. ETA is only 2 days away. They are on a weekend break till then. If the cpu needs RMA he will have to wait a bit anyway.

[hsp25]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

Yeah I like goodies but it hurts to pay the transport for sure. My ROG mb cost $340 i recon

Have you herd anything about these cases. Cougar Evolution Computer Case USB3 0 Desktop PC Gaming Case ATX Case HOT Swap | eBay
Seems a bit cheap to me

Er never mind. I dont like the stand offs

[hsp25]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

Pretty coclusive there is something wrong with the cpu as far as I'm concerned. It hasn't made 10 minutes before failing prime. The other 2 cpu I tested never failed in tests 45+ minutes. Looks like another RMA *sigh* I must be the luckiest man alive lol

[- wardog -]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

What's written within the stress.txt file?

Prime95 can be run to stress CPU, Ram, or both. What were the settings/testing parameters that generated the above pic?

[hsp25]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

This is stress text file. I've found it's a guidline and not a diagnostic. I can't find it my pc but..
this is stress.txt
Quote:
STRESS TESTING YOUR COMPUTER

BACKGROUND
----------

Today's computers are not perfect. Even brand new systems from major
manufacturers can have hidden flaws. If any of several key components such
as CPU, memory, cooling, etc. are not up to spec, it can lead to incorrect
calculations and/or unexplained system crashes.

Overclocking is the practice of increasing the speed of the CPU and/or
memory to make a machine faster at little cost. Typically, overclocking
involves pushing a machine past its limits and then backing off just a
little bit.

For these reasons, both non-overclockers and overclockers need programs
that test the stability of their computers. This is done by running
programs that put a heavy load on the computer. Though not originally
designed for this purpose, this program is one of a few programs that
are excellent at stress testing a computer.


RESOURCES
---------

This program is a good stress test for the CPU, memory, L1 and L2 caches,
CPU cooling, and case cooling. The torture test runs continuously, comparing
your computer's results to results that are known to be correct. Any
mismatch and you've got a problem! Note that the torture test sometimes
reads from and writes to disk but cannot be considered a stress test for
hard drives.

You'll need other programs to stress video cards, PCI bus, disk access,
networking and other important components. In addition, this is only one
of several good programs that are freely available. Some people report
finding problems only when running two or more stress test programs
concurrently. You may need to raise prime95's priority when running two
stress test programs so that each gets about 50% of the CPU time.

Forums are a great place to learn about available stability test programs
and to get advice on what to do when a problem is found.

The currently popular stability test programs are (sorry, I don't have
web addresses for these):
Prime95 (this program's torture test)
3DMark2001
CPU Stability test
Sisoft sandra
Quake and other games
Folding@Home
Seti@home
Genome@home

Several useful websites for help (look for overclocking community or forum):
Overclockers: The Performance Computing Community for Overclocking Hardware and How to Overclock Information
Ars Technica
HARDOCP - HardOCP Computer Hardware Reviews and News
AnandTech | Home
Tom's Hardware: Hardware News, Tests and Reviews
PC Overclocking, Modding and Building | Sharky Extreme
Also try the alt.comp.hardware.overclocking Usenet newsgroup.

Utility programs you may find useful (I'm sure there are others - look around):
Motherboard monitor from livewiredev.com
Memtest86 from PassMark MemTest86 - Memory Diagnostic Tool
Cpuburn by redelm: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/redelm/
TaskInfo2002 from Iarsn - High Quality System Software


WHAT TO DO IF A PROBLEM IS FOUND?
---------------------------------

The exact cause of a hardware problem can be very hard to find.

If you are not overclocking, the most likely cause is an overheating CPU
or memory DIMMs that are not quite up to spec. Another possibility is
you might need a better power supply. Try running MotherBoard monitor
and browse the forums above to see if your CPU is running too hot.
If so, make sure the heat sink is properly attached, fans are operational,
and air flow inside the case is good. For isolating memory problems, try
swapping memory DIMMs with a co-worker's or friend's machine. If the errors
go away, then you can be fairly confidant that memory was the cause of
the trouble. A power supply problem can often be identified by a significant
drop in the voltages when prime95 starts running. Once again the overclocker
forums are a good resource for what voltages are acceptable.

If you are overclocking then try increasing the core voltage, reduce the
CPU speed, reduce the front side bus speed, or change the memory timings
(CAS latency). Also try asking for help in one of the forums above - they
may have other ideas to try.


CAN I IGNORE THE PROBLEM?
-------------------------

Ignoring the problem is a matter of personal preference. There are
two schools of thought on this subject.

Most programs you run will not stress your computer enough to cause a
wrong result or system crash. If you ignore the problem, then video games
may stress your machine resulting in a system crash. Also, stay away from
distributed computing projects where an incorrect calculation might cause
you to return wrong results. Bad data will not help these projects!
In conclusion, if you are comfortable with a small risk of an occasional
system crash then feel free to live a little dangerously! Keep in mind
that the faster prime95 finds a hardware error the more likely it is that
other programs will experience problems.

The second school of thought is, "Why run a stress test if you are going
to ignore the results?" These people want a guaranteed 100% rock solid
machine. Passing these stability tests gives them the ability to run
CPU intensive programs with confidence.


FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
--------------------------

Q) My machine is not overclocked. If I'm getting an error, then there must
be a bug in the program, right?

A) The torture test is comparing your machines results against
KNOWN CORRECT RESULTS. If your machine cannot generate correct
results, you have a hardware problem. HOWEVER, if you are failing
the torture test in the SAME SPOT with the SAME ERROR MESSAGE
every time, then ask for help at mersenneforum.org - it is
possible that a recent change to the torture test code may have
introduced a software bug.

Q) How long should I run the torture test?

A) I recommend running it for somewhere between 6 and 24 hours.
The program has been known to fail only after several hours and in
some cases several weeks of operation. In most cases though, it will
fail within a few minutes on a flaky machine.

Q) Prime95 reports errors during the torture test, but other stability
tests don't. Do I have a problem?

A) Yes, you've reached the point where your machine has been
pushed just beyond its limits. Follow the recommendations above
to make your machine 100% stable or decide to live with a
machine that could have problems in rare circumstances.

Q) A forum member said "Don't bother with prime95, it always pukes on me,
and my system is stable!. What do you make of that?"

or

"We had a server at work that ran for 2 MONTHS straight, without a reboot
I installed Prime95 on it and ran it - a couple minutes later I get an error.
You are going to tell me that the server wasn't stable?"

A) These users obviously do not subscribe to the 100% rock solid
school of thought. THEIR MACHINES DO HAVE HARDWARE PROBLEMS.
But since they are not presently running any programs that reveal
the hardware problem, the machines are quite stable. As long as
these machines never run a program that uncovers the hardware problem,
then the machines will continue to be stable.

[hsp25]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

I would have thought stress testing with 3 different cpu several times and only failing on one cpu would have been reasonably conclusive. FX-6300 fails every time within 10 minutes (at least 6 separate tests at different times). Other cpu's have had no fails with tests over 30 minutes (at least 4 separate tests at different times). I have memtest with windows version several times, no errors with FX-6300 but seeings though you mentioned it I will memtest86 ram with 1090t. Memtest86 does also do cpu L2 cache and I've just got windows back to wear it was. I am not keen on another recovery so the FX6300 stays out at this point.

Prime test was


I've done 8 hours of tests in several different ways with memtest86. No errors. It all suggests the FX6300 is faulty doesn't it?

Better make that 19 hours of all ram sequential testing. Testing each core with the same test then moving to another test. Over 10 full passes with no errors

[hsp25]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

Well it's conclusive. The cpu was faulty but the seller has given a store credit as the FX-6300 is unavailable with no ETA.

[hsp25]

Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

And still it continues. The new cpu tests fine but still a daily BSOD. No more code 101 but 1e,50 and a still. I recon it's drivers but haven't been able to find appropriate ones