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  • #31
    Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

    Originally posted by hsp25 View Post
    And still it continues. The new cpu tests fine but still a daily BSOD. No more code 101 but 1e,50 and a still. I recon it's drivers but haven't been able to find appropriate ones

    It may be something related to your 6 core processor, as stated on the official site :


    Originally posted by FumaKilla View Post


    "Note5: The mainboard supports DDR3-2000 MHz DIMMs only when you install a 6-core cpu to the mainboard."


    Source : ASRock > 970 Pro3 R2.0





    I'm using the same motherboard to post this post :)
    it was horrible start to build this system. but some how I stabilize it and never act up until now...


    I used 8 core processor on the 970pro3 R2.0 it may be different from your setup but I'm going to share it any way how I get here.




    first time when I assembled the whole system it was random BSOD everytime by 15 mins is the longest.


    I used the old windows installation from my old board with 890 chipset on it and manage to run prime95 under safe mode.
    prime95 with the 3rd option (the one that said also testign alot of RAM) test resulted in 1-2 mins error on it.
    how ever the 1st option test give 1 hour with out errors.




    so I assume the problem is either the board or the memory..


    I ran the USB drive memtest86+ version 5.01 downloaded from : Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool on the system it gave out 3 passes with out errors. the result made me explore the web more.
    then some article said to press F2 (forced to use all core) on multicore processor.
    when I did the memtest86+ with F2 I get 52 errors with all of them being #7 (block move) test.




    then tested all memory module on another multicore amd based computer turn out ok.


    so I think it's the board compatibility with the memory that become problem.


    so I go to the asrock official website.
    updated my bios to 1.50 (my board was came with bios version 1.0 out of the box)


    re ran the memtest86+ with F2 pressed. it gave out 21 Errors! (a nice improvement lols!)
    then I play around with memory related setting on the bios (up to this point everthing in the bios was on auto setting).


    (....1 day latter...)


    I got stable system with HT bus set to 1800 and ram clock set to 1066mhz (still on auto)
    then My curiousity start to kick in....


    (...2days latter..)


    I got stable system on much higher frequency! yay


    ran memtest86+ (F2 pressed) 5 pass with no errors
    ran prime95 with 3rd option 6 hours with out errors


    =============TLDR=============
    the settings I use is :










    I hope This helps!
    Last edited by FumaKilla; 02-17-2014, 09:32 PM. Reason: fixing pictures

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    • #32
      Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

      Thanks for sharing. I have no doubt it's ram compatibility. I recon I have a fair idea why but mine may not be tweakable. I'll have another look though coz I hate tek beating me however I got a cheap 990fxa-ud5 from eBay yesterday

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      • #33
        Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

        I understand wear some of your figures come from but some are a mystery. I have some CML8GX3M2A1600C9 that seems to have similar numbers but it freezes before it gets through the first pass. Any ideas?

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        • #34
          Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

          Originally posted by hsp25 View Post
          I understand wear some of your figures come from but some are a mystery. I have some CML8GX3M2A1600C9 that seems to have similar numbers but it freezes before it gets through the first pass. Any ideas?

          basically what I changed from the auto setting info provided by the ram module is the tRFC and CR on the memory module. and I personally think it's the culprit..
          if we compared the Manual setting and the auto setting (provided by the ram module info table on my third screen shot above) Asrock's tRFC has nothing close to the ram module required tRFC.
          only XMP.1 (auto setting profile) has 300 ns TRFC but.... it has 3 for CR value.. so basically I combined the data I got from JEDEC_1 (1600) and XMP (1600).
          auto setting on JEDEC_1 (1600) also fail because it left the CR value for the motherboard to decide..... and the motherboard default for CR is 1T.
          which is unstable according to many source on the net.

          let me know if you manage to stabilize yours :)

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          • #35
            Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

            Yeah I gather as much. Problem with the 2 sets of ram I have is that TRFC is not one that is an option. The MB says it's a weird number like 178. The kingston stuff has the same problem. I have some ripjaws I might have a fiddle with them
            Also wear did you get the tcwl number?

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            • #36
              Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

              Originally posted by hsp25 View Post
              Yeah I gather as much. Problem with the 2 sets of ram I have is that TRFC is not one that is an option. The MB says it's a weird number like 178. The kingston stuff has the same problem. I have some ripjaws I might have a fiddle with them
              Also wear did you get the tcwl number?
              I never play around with 2 set/pair of ram module.. xD
              from the tRFC menu, pick the closest higher tRFC value from the one that is required by the memory module.

              are you trying to get 2 pairs of ram module to work on the Mainboard?
              if you do... try to stabilize the one which has lower quality first (higher CL rating /lower frequency).

              about the tCWL value it was there when I switch the "DRAM timing control" option from Auto to Manual. I didn't change it.

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              • #37
                Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

                nope just one stable pair would be good. i just have several sets to choose from
                Last edited by hsp25; 02-20-2014, 03:41 AM.

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                • #38
                  Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

                  I found out that.... the AXTU (asrock extreeme tuner utility) Version 0.1.383.... create random BSOD.
                  I'm using windows7 64 bit.
                  may be it's just me.... on my 2 years old OS.
                  but with out AXTU the pc never get BSOD.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

                    Interesting.. I dont have any asrock utilities installed

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                    • #40
                      Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

                      Hi guys,i have a same problem as you -AsRock 970pro3 rev.2 ,FX-6300 with box cooler ,2x4GB Kingston HyperX1600Mhz- in bios all settings are uefi defaults and computer just random freeze and lots of BSOD's :(.Then i try settings writed above by FumaKilla and again the same .Running 3 hours of blend test in Prime 95 -no errors,no warnings and after that just open Google Chrome to browse in internet and computer crashed .Any ideas what i should may try?

                      P.S.Sorry for my bad english-didn't use Google translate for sure :D

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                      • #41
                        Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

                        The setting above will only work if you have the same ram as FumaKilla. you have to use setting for your specific ram. Whats the ram part number? Is it a new build?

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                        • #42
                          Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

                          This could be the source of all our issues. "Note5: The mainboard supports DDR3-2000 MHz DIMMs only when you install a 6-core cpu to the mainboard."
                          Source : http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20P....0/?cat=Memory

                          You may be able to tweak your ram settings in bios but to date I have not with the ram I have available. One of these sets are most likely the ones you want but I wouldn't guarantee it for certain. It's an extract from the QVL of this motherboard.
                          DDR3 2000 2GB A-DATA Plus DDR3-2200G DS v 2pcs v
                          DDR3 2000 2GB A-DATA Gaming DDR3-2200G v2.0 DS v 2pcs v
                          DDR3 2000 2GB Kingston KHX2000C9AD3W1K3/6GX DS v 2pcs v
                          DDR3 2000 2GB Kingston KHX2000C9AD3T1K2/4GX DS v 2pcs v
                          DDR3 2000 2GB Kingston KHX2250C9D3T1K2/4GX DS v 2pcs v
                          DDR3 2000 2GB Kingston KHX2133C9AD3T1K2/4GX DS v 2pcs v
                          DDR3 2000 2GB Kingston KHX2133C9AD3X2K2/4GX DS v 2pcs v
                          DDR3 2000 1GB Kingston KHX16000D3T1K3/3GX DS v 2pcs v
                          Last edited by hsp25; 02-21-2014, 11:33 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

                            Yes-it's a new build.The memory part number is -KHX1600C9D3/4G for both,only serial number is different.For now i achieved some stability with cpu at 16x200=3200MHz wtih 1.25v and memory at 1066Mhz(7/7/7/19/26) but is slow at all.Another thing- my PSU is 5-year old Fortron SAGA+ 450p an he has only 4-pin cable to 8-pin connector at motherboard .Should be worried about that ?
                            Last edited by Shemetronix; 02-22-2014, 01:22 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

                              So you are using 2 stick from a set of 3. You may get those stable. you need to look in your bios and put your figures in from your bios page that looks like this
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                              Then tweak ram voltages. Your PSU may well be a problem as the MB does not have a strong VRM. Using only 4 pins would be working it harder
                              You need to test with memtest86 latest version and use the f2 test. You need to make a usb bootable to use it. Get it here http://www.memtest86.com/download.htm . It will take many hours to test properly. I would suggest at least 7 full passes. A fail does not mean bad ram in this instance. Just that it is not stable. Freezing will also mean the same.
                              Last edited by hsp25; 02-22-2014, 04:12 AM.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Asrock 970 Pro3 2.0 bsods and freezing

                                Originally posted by hsp25 View Post
                                So you are using 2 stick from a set of 3. You may get those stable. you need to look in your bios and put your figures in from your bios page that looks like this
                                [ATTACH]6611[/ATTACH]

                                Then tweak ram voltages. Your PSU may well be a problem as the MB does not have a strong VRM. Using only 4 pins would be working it harder
                                You need to test with memtest86 latest version and use the f2 test. You need to make a usb bootable to use it. Get it here MemTest86 - Download now! . It will take many hours to test properly. I would suggest at least 7 full passes. A fail does not mean bad ram in this instance. Just that it is not stable. Freezing will also mean the same.
                                For now i'm runnig at 17x200/3400Mhz CPU with 1.25v from bios and memory runs at 1333Mhz (9/9/9/24/33/CR2, 1.5v)-running 2 hours memtest for windows ,1,5 hours of Small FFT test in Prime 95,a few runs of 3dmark 06 and still not errors.I'm very confused with this mobo ....My next step will be raise CPU to his default frequency and maybe put memory to 1600mhz but not with XMP profile.In UEFI i set HT link frequency to 2000MHz also NB at same speed.Sorry again for my bad english ,hope so you understand me :).

                                EDIT:Sorry man :(.Checked with memtest86 and computer freeze after 4-5min max.
                                Last edited by Shemetronix; 02-22-2014, 06:15 AM.

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