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A few days ago I contacted Gigabyte Support asking for the latest beta Z390 Master BIOS, like the one for the XTreme, haven't heard back yet, but it's the weekend. :/
stasio,
I know Gigabyte is busy, but can you please try to contact the Bios engineer about the Z390 Master Bios bugs?
I know you own this board also.
I already filed two support tickets with esupport. Both times, they said they did not hear anything back from the BIOS team.
I will list the BIOS bugs in F10 Master BIOS again:
1) tREFI memory option is bugged--values higher than 9998 do not work.
2) some RAM memory settings do not let you enter value numbers with keyboard, until you move then come back, or you use arrow keys then come back.
3) CPU Current Limit (Amps) is missing
4) CPU PLL Overvoltage +mv is missing.
5) VCORE/VAXG PROTECTION: missing.
6) Per Core Limit Control does not work at all. I think this is HEDT option. It never worked in any Z390 Master BIOS release.
7) Critical (major bug): Changing from DVID mode voltage setting with low Loadline Calibration, to FIXED Voltage setting with higher loadline calibration causes EXCESSIVE over-voltage!! Rebooting again (2nd time) to BIOS then suddenly it's working.
This bug has happened in every Master BIOS since old versions. // I think the DVID mode is not cleared properly until 2 reboots. (Modes combined bug?)
This bug does NOT happen when changing Auto->fixed voltage from SAVED PROFILE. Only DVID-->Fixed voltage. Sorry, I did not check manual entry for bug here.
8) Internal VR Settings-->Most settings do nothing (same problem as older Bioses)
AC/DC Loadline-->working fine :):)
IMON SLOPE/IMON OFFSET--> NOT WORKING. (Affects CPU_PACKAGE_POWER_MSR, but does nothing :(:().
VR Current Limit (1/4 Amps) --> NOT WORKING
VR Voltage Limit -->NOT WORKING
TDC Settings-->NOT WORKING
TDC Time Limit -->option bugged---should be 1ms-10ms (9ms no definition) but instead its "0-63". Also not working
PS Current threshold/PS States --->NOT WORKING
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Thank you Stasio.
1, 3, 4 and 5 have been fixed and they will be available in the next beta or normal release.
It just takes time since the new UI was not supposed to be released on Z390 but we pushed it cause we saw that people liked it better than the old UI but at the same time there are quite few chipsets to be updated it and few more upcoming that our BIOS team is working on.
Rest issues that are being carried since the old UI won't be fixed in the next release.
I will see if they can be fixed in a future release though.
1, 3, 4 and 5 have been fixed and they will be available in the next beta or normal release.
It just takes time since the new UI was not supposed to be released on Z390 but we pushed it cause we saw that people liked it better than the old UI but at the same time there are quite few chipsets to be updated it and few more upcoming that our BIOS team is working on.
Rest issues that are being carried since the old UI won't be fixed in the next release.
I will see if they can be fixed in a future release though.
Sofos
Thank you very much, Sofos.
Are you with the BIOS team?
I am willing to test Beta bios if you guys want to send any. I mentioned this in my esupport ticket
But it is kylearan (at) outlook (dot) com for the email.
Z390 Master F11b:
Not sure what is different from F10.
The same bugs from F10 are still here, though :(
1) Ram tREFI setting-->values higher than 9998 do not work. Sets it to 65534.
2) CPU PLL Overvoltage +mv: missing still
3) CPU Core Current Limit (Amps): missing
4) CPU/VAXG Protection (100mv-400mv): missing
5) Turbo Per Core Limit Control -->Core Limit ratio values are missing
(not critical bug but)
6) Internal VR Control: Only AC/DC Loadline values work. The other settings do not do anything (e.g. VR Current Limit, IMON Slope/Offset (for CPU Package Power reporting), TDC, PS Current Threshold 1/2/3, etc).
By the way, I found out what Turbo Per core Limit Control does. It can specify the turbo boost ratio limits (when turbo boost core ratios are enabled) to set them to a specific physical core.
E.g. if you have a 1 core turbo ratio of x51, you can specify which exact core that x51 is applied to, or if you have a 2 and 3 core turbo ratio of x50 and 4 and 5 turbo core ratio of x49, you can
specify which physical core they are applied to. Someone else on OCN found this out for us, and it works on F9 and the f10 old betas. The ratio values are missing here though (they can be seen in AMIBCP 5.02.0031). One person on OCN used it to set maximum core turbo ratios on the strongest cores.
Z390 Master F11b:
Not sure what is different from F10.
The same bugs from F10 are still here, though :(
1) Ram tREFI setting-->values higher than 9998 do not work. Sets it to 65534.
2) CPU PLL Overvoltage +mv: missing still
3) CPU Core Current Limit (Amps): missing
4) CPU/VAXG Protection (100mv-400mv): missing
5) Turbo Per Core Limit Control -->Core Limit ratio values are missing
(not critical bug but)
6) Internal VR Control: Only AC/DC Loadline values work. The other settings do not do anything (e.g. VR Current Limit, IMON Slope/Offset (for CPU Package Power reporting), TDC, PS Current Threshold 1/2/3, etc).
By the way, I found out what Turbo Per core Limit Control does. It can specify the turbo boost ratio limits (when turbo boost core ratios are enabled) to set them to a specific physical core.
E.g. if you have a 1 core turbo ratio of x51, you can specify which exact core that x51 is applied to, or if you have a 2 and 3 core turbo ratio of x50 and 4 and 5 turbo core ratio of x49, you can
specify which physical core they are applied to. Someone else on OCN found this out for us, and it works on F9 and the f10 old betas. The ratio values are missing here though (they can be seen in AMIBCP 5.02.0031). One person on OCN used it to set maximum core turbo ratios on the strongest cores.
Thanks, already send your obversation to GB HQ......
Z390 Master F11b:
Not sure what is different from F10.
The same bugs from F10 are still here, though :(
1) Ram tREFI setting-->values higher than 9998 do not work. Sets it to 65534.
2) CPU PLL Overvoltage +mv: missing still
3) CPU Core Current Limit (Amps): missing
4) CPU/VAXG Protection (100mv-400mv): missing
5) Turbo Per Core Limit Control -->Core Limit ratio values are missing
(not critical bug but)
6) Internal VR Control: Only AC/DC Loadline values work. The other settings do not do anything (e.g. VR Current Limit, IMON Slope/Offset (for CPU Package Power reporting), TDC, PS Current Threshold 1/2/3, etc).
By the way, I found out what Turbo Per core Limit Control does. It can specify the turbo boost ratio limits (when turbo boost core ratios are enabled) to set them to a specific physical core.
E.g. if you have a 1 core turbo ratio of x51, you can specify which exact core that x51 is applied to, or if you have a 2 and 3 core turbo ratio of x50 and 4 and 5 turbo core ratio of x49, you can
specify which physical core they are applied to. Someone else on OCN found this out for us, and it works on F9 and the f10 old betas. The ratio values are missing here though (they can be seen in AMIBCP 5.02.0031). One person on OCN used it to set maximum core turbo ratios on the strongest cores.
New Z390 beta BIOS posted,it fixes some of the issues above.
New Z390 beta BIOS posted,it fixes some of the issues above.
DVID is not fixed yet though.
Thank you very much for entire Gigabyte team's hard work!
I think the DVID issue when changing back to fixed or auto vcore modes, from a previous DVID mode, is a bug (feature?) with the AMI Base Bios.
"Overclocking Performance Menu" allows you to set adaptive mode (new option appears: Additional Turbo Voltage) or Override mode.
But in override mode, offsets can still be used! And if you had an offset applied in adaptive mode, when you switch to override mode, the previous offset is still there.
This has been tested on unlocked MSI and Clevo laptops.
To use override mode, you have to set the offset to 0mv if you don't want an offset.
The Gigabyte AMI basebios has the same options there (Overclocking performance menu, hidden AMI Menu), so that may be the cause of the issue (Guessing).
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