EX58-UD3R help...

[someguyonapc]

I just built an i7 system with a EX58-UD3R motherboard (BIOS version f2).
RAM is 3x2gig Corsair XMS3 TR3X6G1333C9 DDR3.

A few days ago I tried changing my memory multiplier and timings to match the specs of the RAM (1333 @ 9-9-9-24).

It worked fine... ran memtest86+ and had no errors.
Temperature was a degree or so hotter, but that's about it.

Last night I switched one of my fans from sys_fan2 to sys_fan1 after realising that sys_fan2 is 5v, and when I tried to boot up I got stuck at the Vista (64bit) loading screen. I restarted via front reset button and the BIOS reset itself and computer rebooted. I rebooted again and went into BIOS and got a message saying something about an error occuring due to overclocking or over voltage... I haven't done anything except change memory multiplier and timings.

Can someone help me?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: EX58-UD3R help...

You need to change Several things when you change your memory timings. Please give me your full settings and I can advise back >>>

This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

CPU = Model #
Motherboard = Model, Revision #
BIOS Version =
Ram = Brand, Model#, Part#, And or Link

[B]Advanced CPU Features:[/B]
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


[B]Uncore & QPI Features:[/B]
QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
Uncore Frequency ..........................  (Always 2x memory Multi or 2x +1)
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


[B]Standard Clock Control:[/B]
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

[B]Advanced Clock Control:[/B]
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


[B]Advanced DRAM Features:[/B]
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual]

[B]Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:[/B]
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................
tRCD .......................................
tRP .........................................
tRAS .......................................

##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................  (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................
tWTR ......................................
tWR ........................................
tWTP .......................................
tWL ........................................   (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tRFC .......................................
tRTP .......................................
tFAW ......................................
Command Rate (CMD) ................

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................



[B]Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU[/B]
Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
CPU Vcore ...............................
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................

[B]MCH/ICH[/B]
PCIE 1.500v ...........................
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................
IOH Core 1.100v .....................
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
ICH Core 1.1v ........................

[B]DRAM[/B]
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

[someguyonapc]

Re: EX58-UD3R help...

Thanks for the reply.
I'm just learning how to overclock and have not changed anything but the RAM multiplier and timings (they're back at default now)... the system ran stable for a few days until I switched a fan from sysfan2 to sysfan1... I don't know why that caused a problem (maybe it didn't cause it...?)


CPU = i7 920

Motherboard = EX58-UD3R, Rev 12
(link to motherboard)
NCIX.com - Buy Gigabyte EX58-UD3R ATX LGA1366 X58 DDR3 2PCI-E 2PCI SATA2 RAID Sound GLAN CrossFireX Motherboard - GA-EX58-UD3R In Canada.

BIOS Version = f2 (shipped with motherboard)

Ram = Corsair 6gb i7 kit, part#: CM3X2G1333C9
(link to ram)
NCIX.com - Buy Corsair XMS3 TR3X6G1333C9 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1333 CL 9-9-9-24 Core i7 Memory Kit - TR3X6G1333C9 In Canada.




Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. [Auto]
Uncore Frequency .......................... [Auto]
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... [133]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [Auto]
C.I.A.2.......................................... [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled] (I don't see this)
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Auto]

...some of these settings don't mean a whole lot to me yet. I'm still learning exacly what they all do.

Can you help me get my RAM running at 1333 @ 9-9-9-24 (how much of a difference would there be over the default 1066 @ 8-8-8-20?)

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: EX58-UD3R help...

I do recommend you update your BIOS, many things have been corrected and added since F2

Do not use @BIOS, use Qflash. Here is a Guide, and be sure to read it especially if you are using RAID >>>

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios-flashing-how-qflash-guide-27576/

Here is your BIOS page, latest is F5 >>>
GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - BIOS - GA-EX58-UD3R (rev. 1.0)

Or the Latest Beta is here, F6a >>

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/gigabyte-latest-bios-28441/

It would be much better to run your ram at 1333 over 1066. Why did you not fill out the whole template I posted for you? I needed to see it all really...

Here is where I would suggest you start to run your ram with the above settings, and ram at 1333Mhz >>>

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disable if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC programs
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
Uncore Frequency .......................... 20-21 (Always 2x memory Multi or 2x +1)
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................133
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [10.0] = 1333Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................9
tRCD .......................................9
tRP .........................................9
tRAS .......................................24

I will leave most of these on Auto for now, not the best for performance, but you can work on them after you get going

##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................ Auto (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................Auto
tWTR ......................................Auto
tWR ........................................ Auto
tWTP .......................................Auto
tWL ........................................ Auto (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tRFC .......................................68-82 << Start with a higher value here
tRTP .......................................Auto
tFAW ......................................Auto
Command Rate (CMD) ................1

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................Auto



Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
CPU Vcore ............................... Auto for no overclock
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ << This is a tricky setting, all depends on your Memory multi used, QPI Speed, Uncore speed, and what YOUR CPU need to run stable. I suggest try setting to 1.2-1.3 and then either work your way down if it boots with 1.3, or up if not

CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... Auto for no overclock

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ........................... 1.54
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................1.1-1.24 (1.1 will be fine with no overclock)
IOH Core 1.100v .....................1.14-1.24
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................1.5
ICH Core 1.1v ........................1.14-1.2

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.64-1.66
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

[someguyonapc]

Re: EX58-UD3R help...

I'm a little hesitant to try updating the BIOS as I've heard it can be really bad if not done properly.

I'm looking over the settings you suggest, and I'm going to have to do some reading and learning before I try changing all that.

Thank you very much for your help.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: EX58-UD3R help...

Flashing your BIOS will be fine, it is if you use @BIOS to flash from Windows things go wrong normally. Just do not do it in a storm, or do not shut off your PC During the flash and you will be fine

That's why I wrote the guide linked above, so people would be less afraid as it is very simple.

[someguyonapc]

Re: EX58-UD3R help...

Ok, I'll give it a try.
Thanks again.

I'm new to this so I'll probably be back asking more questions soon.

[someguyonapc]

Re: EX58-UD3R help...

BIOS update with Q-flash was successful.
Followed the tutorial... quick and easy...

Now I'll be playing around with the settings you recommended.
If I mess up, or want to revert back do I just load optimized defaults?
Or is there something else I'll have to do?

Also, I've been wondering about EasyTune6...
Would you recommend it for overclocking?
I'd like to see how my system performs at higher settings... I'm in the process of learning how to do it all manually, but it's taking some time and I'm not comfortable quite yet.

[someguyonapc]

Re: EX58-UD3R help...

Is it really necessary to disable C1E and EIST?
I've been reading differing opinions about that.