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    I recently built my brother a new system using this board here.
    Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

    The build was straight forward, and is a solid running machine.

    I am now looking to build a gaming rig, and wondering what you guys would suggest for a mobo. I am looking to run an Intel dual core processor, and at least four gigs of RAM. (Vista 64) I already own an EVGA GTX 260 graphics card that I will be installing, as well as an X-fi sound card.

    I would appreciate the help!! I'm actually leaning towards the same board that I used in my brothers system. Is there any advantage using a board that will accommodate DDR 3 RAM??

  • #2
    Re: mobo recomendation??

    Originally posted by Keizer View Post
    I recently built my brother a new system using this board here.
    Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

    The build was straight forward, and is a solid running machine.

    I am now looking to build a gaming rig, and wondering what you guys would suggest for a mobo. I am looking to run an Intel dual core processor, and at least four gigs of RAM. (Vista 64) I already own an EVGA GTX 260 graphics card that I will be installing, as well as an X-fi sound card.

    I would appreciate the help!! I'm actually leaning towards the same board that I used in my brothers system. Is there any advantage using a board that will accommodate DDR 3 RAM??
    Using the same board as the one you used in in your brothers system sounds like a fantastic idea.

    Worrying about DDR3, and all, is hard to compare to the advantages of using the same board that's in your brothers machine.

    Right now the best performance in Games hinders most on the video card. I wish that upgrading to the most expensive system right now would give me a significant boost. But it won't. For almost any other application, it would. But for playing games, don't let DDR3, and all, fog over all the advantages of having the same board as your brothers. The advantages are countless.

    And DirectX11 is just around the corner. You might really be kicking yourself if something about it arises quickly and its technology is well worth the expense.

    I'll go ahead and mention the one advantage that I think is at the top, or at least second, of a "having the same mobo" list: (No offense intended if your well experienced at it all Keizer; but for anyone that happens to read this and doesn't know.)

    1. Diagnosing. (It covers a lot.)
    ---Both machine's Boot Drives boot from either machine.
    ---Answering questions or the ability to ask questions like: "Are you getting the most out of existing Video Card or one you might buy just down the road?" Well just pop the video card and your Hard Drive in his machine and compare. Then try it with his Hard Drive if necessary.
    ---Disaster recovery made super easy and quick.
    ---The placemant of everything being identical makes for swapping parts with your eyes closed. It's just so fast.
    ---See how a newer BIOS works before committing both machines to it. (Heck a blind BIOS recovery would be so simplified!)
    ---Drivers, drivers, Drivers.... What a breeze they are, with the same MOBO!!!
    ---etc. etc. Its just endless.

    GL
    Last edited by Bee_Dee_3_Dee; 04-17-2009, 11:18 AM.
    <<< LGA2011-v3 System Summary >>>
    > Power Supply: CORSAIR AX Series AX860 860W 80 PLUS PLATINUM Haswell Ready Full Modular (NE Link)
    > Chipset : Intel X99
    > Mainboard :Gigabyte GA-X99-Ultra Gaming
    (NE Link)
    > Processor : i7-6850K (NE Link)
    > AIO: Corsair Hydro Series H100i V2 (NE Link)
    > Physical Memory : G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 Model F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW (NE Link)
    > Video Card : 2x ASUS ROG STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING (NE Link)


    <<< LGA1366 System Summary >>>
    > Power Supply:
    >>>Original PSU (2011-01) :
    Corsair 620HX (NE Link)
    >>>Upgrade PSU (2012-01) : CORSAIR AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W (NE Link)
    > Chipset : Intel X58
    > Mainboard : Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R (REV.2.0) (FB BIOS)
    (NE Link MPP Link)
    > Processor : i7-950 (Revision D0) 3.0GHz @3.84GHz
    (NE Link MPP Link)
    > HSF:
    Noctua NH-D14 (NE Link MPP Link)
    > Physical Memory :
    >>>Original RAM (2011-01) : G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ
    >>>Upgrade RAM (2012-01) : Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) w/FrostByte Heatsink Model 998990 (NE Link MPP Link OverClockersClub Dot Com Article)
    > Video Card :
    >>>Original Vid Card (2011-01) : BFG Geforce GTX295 (
    NE Link)
    >>>Upgrade Vid Card(2012-01) : (2) EVGA 02G-P3-1568-KR GTX 560 Ti (2GB)-SLI (
    NE Link)
    >>>Upgrade Vid Card(2013-07) : (2) GTX 760-SLI Gigabyte GV-N760OC-4GB (NE Link)
    > DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B ATA Device
    > Monitor :
    ViewSonic Pro Series VP2655wb Black 26" (
    NE Link)
    > Operating System : Windows 7 Ultimate
    > Case : COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel (
    NE Link)

    <<< LGA775 System Summary >>>
    > Power Supply: Corsair 620HX (
    NE Link)
    > Mainboard : Gigabyte P35-S3G (F2 BIOS)
    > Chipset : Intel P35
    > Processor : Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale (Revision C0) 3.0GHz @ 3950 MHz
    > HSF: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
    > Physical Memory : CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) (
    Link)
    > Video Card : BFG Geforce GTX295
    > DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B ATA Device
    >
    Monitor : ViewSonic Pro Series VP2655wb Black 26"
    > Operating System : Windows 7 Ultimate

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: mobo recomendation??

      Thanks for the reply!!

      The only complaint that I really had with the board I used in my bros build, was the lack of system fan connections. And one of the few available ran at a lower voltage.

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      • #4
        Re: mobo recomendation??

        Originally posted by Keizer View Post
        Thanks for the reply!!

        The only complaint that I really had with the board I used in my bros build, was the lack of system fan connections. And one of the few available ran at a lower voltage.
        np

        Hmmm...

        A good PSU should allow you to over come any problems like that.

        Can you believe the size of my PSU? (Its only 620 watts.)

        In relation to my video card (which is like a pair of 260s), and my CPU speed (3.95GHz all day for over 12 hours and off at night?) its simply unbelievable.

        And I didn't mention in my sig that I have five Hard Drives. This PSU can even handle a Dual TV card too. Plays Crysis and record two TV shows simultaneously and flawlessly.

        I swapped out my TV card last week and put it into my refurbished HTPC, so I can run a fan or two or three. (I don't need them because temps are super low.)

        Maybe the best solution for you is one of those 5.25' bay fan control units that controls all case fans individually with volume controls. That would be too cool. And they've been around long enough that they're dirt cheap now. Regardless of the number of features. (Rummy!)
        Last edited by Bee_Dee_3_Dee; 04-17-2009, 01:50 PM.
        <<< LGA2011-v3 System Summary >>>
        > Power Supply: CORSAIR AX Series AX860 860W 80 PLUS PLATINUM Haswell Ready Full Modular (NE Link)
        > Chipset : Intel X99
        > Mainboard :Gigabyte GA-X99-Ultra Gaming
        (NE Link)
        > Processor : i7-6850K (NE Link)
        > AIO: Corsair Hydro Series H100i V2 (NE Link)
        > Physical Memory : G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 Model F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW (NE Link)
        > Video Card : 2x ASUS ROG STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING (NE Link)


        <<< LGA1366 System Summary >>>
        > Power Supply:
        >>>Original PSU (2011-01) :
        Corsair 620HX (NE Link)
        >>>Upgrade PSU (2012-01) : CORSAIR AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W (NE Link)
        > Chipset : Intel X58
        > Mainboard : Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R (REV.2.0) (FB BIOS)
        (NE Link MPP Link)
        > Processor : i7-950 (Revision D0) 3.0GHz @3.84GHz
        (NE Link MPP Link)
        > HSF:
        Noctua NH-D14 (NE Link MPP Link)
        > Physical Memory :
        >>>Original RAM (2011-01) : G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ
        >>>Upgrade RAM (2012-01) : Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) w/FrostByte Heatsink Model 998990 (NE Link MPP Link OverClockersClub Dot Com Article)
        > Video Card :
        >>>Original Vid Card (2011-01) : BFG Geforce GTX295 (
        NE Link)
        >>>Upgrade Vid Card(2012-01) : (2) EVGA 02G-P3-1568-KR GTX 560 Ti (2GB)-SLI (
        NE Link)
        >>>Upgrade Vid Card(2013-07) : (2) GTX 760-SLI Gigabyte GV-N760OC-4GB (NE Link)
        > DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B ATA Device
        > Monitor :
        ViewSonic Pro Series VP2655wb Black 26" (
        NE Link)
        > Operating System : Windows 7 Ultimate
        > Case : COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel (
        NE Link)

        <<< LGA775 System Summary >>>
        > Power Supply: Corsair 620HX (
        NE Link)
        > Mainboard : Gigabyte P35-S3G (F2 BIOS)
        > Chipset : Intel P35
        > Processor : Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale (Revision C0) 3.0GHz @ 3950 MHz
        > HSF: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
        > Physical Memory : CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) (
        Link)
        > Video Card : BFG Geforce GTX295
        > DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B ATA Device
        >
        Monitor : ViewSonic Pro Series VP2655wb Black 26"
        > Operating System : Windows 7 Ultimate

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: mobo recomendation??

          EP45-UD3R vs EP45-UD3P

          Both are excellent boards.

          The R version is about $15 less expensive.

          The P version has additional features that might make it a better buy
          because you won't have buy add-in cards to add some features.

          The P version supports crossfire video setups.

          Either way, you can't go wrong.

          Check out the EP-45-UD3x features and differences here.
          Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
          P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
          4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
          MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
          Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
          WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
          Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
          SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
          Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
          Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
          Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
          MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
          Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
          win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
          HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
          CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
          E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
          Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
          Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
          HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
          win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
          .

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          • #6
            Re: mobo recomendation??

            Originally posted by Bee_Dee_3_Dee View Post
            np

            Hmmm...

            A good PSU should allow you to over come any problems like that.


            Maybe the best solution for you is one of those 5.25' bay fan control units that controls all case fans individually with volume controls.
            That's actually a good idea!! I use one of those on my wifes PC. It works great!!

            Ok, so I am going to go with the
            *GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R mobo.


            Moving on, what would you guys suggest for RAM. I used this in my bros build.
            Newegg.com - CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

            Would I be better off using DDR2 1066 PC2 8500 since the mobo can handle that? By the way, is it true that allot of this DDR 1066 RAM is really DDR 800 RAM over clocked? Since you have to manually set the voltage above 1.8V?

            How stable will this mobo be with the DDR2 1066 PC2 8500? I know allot of people complain about system stability with DDR2 1066 and MSI mobo's. So I was wondering how the GIGABYTE boards are.

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            • #7
              Re: mobo recomendation??

              800 or 1066 mem may /may not be the same chips ,theres some kind of "bin sorting".
              So you may get 800mhz cips that are at the top end and will do 1066 or 1066 chips that are the low end and will only run a little over 1066.
              Its not so much the manufacturers overclocking them.( I think)

              ddr2 mem speed doesnt make much diff in games it seems,see nickel20s posts.ddr3 is making some difference now it seems on crysis etc.
              Mainly tho its gx n cpu speed on ddr2 systems(most of the good gx cards have ddr3 mem in them anyway.
              Current Systems:

              Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
              Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
              Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
              8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
              60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
              GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
              Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

              HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

              hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
              http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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              • #8
                Re: mobo recomendation??

                Originally posted by Keizer View Post
                That's actually a good idea!! I use one of those on my wifes PC. It works great!!

                Ok, so I am going to go with the
                *GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R mobo.


                Moving on, what would you guys suggest for RAM. I used this in my bros build.
                Newegg.com - CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

                Would I be better off using DDR2 1066 PC2 8500 since the mobo can handle that? By the way, is it true that allot of this DDR 1066 RAM is really DDR 800 RAM over clocked? Since you have to manually set the voltage above 1.8V?

                How stable will this mobo be with the DDR2 1066 PC2 8500? I know allot of people complain about system stability with DDR2 1066 and MSI mobo's. So I was wondering how the GIGABYTE boards are.
                Buy the RAM ProJim has unless he says to get other.

                1066 is worth setting its Voltage between +1 and +3. And it's easier than setting Boot order.

                I've only had 1066 on my Gigabyte. I bought it in Feb. '08.

                GL
                <<< LGA2011-v3 System Summary >>>
                > Power Supply: CORSAIR AX Series AX860 860W 80 PLUS PLATINUM Haswell Ready Full Modular (NE Link)
                > Chipset : Intel X99
                > Mainboard :Gigabyte GA-X99-Ultra Gaming
                (NE Link)
                > Processor : i7-6850K (NE Link)
                > AIO: Corsair Hydro Series H100i V2 (NE Link)
                > Physical Memory : G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 Model F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW (NE Link)
                > Video Card : 2x ASUS ROG STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING (NE Link)


                <<< LGA1366 System Summary >>>
                > Power Supply:
                >>>Original PSU (2011-01) :
                Corsair 620HX (NE Link)
                >>>Upgrade PSU (2012-01) : CORSAIR AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W (NE Link)
                > Chipset : Intel X58
                > Mainboard : Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R (REV.2.0) (FB BIOS)
                (NE Link MPP Link)
                > Processor : i7-950 (Revision D0) 3.0GHz @3.84GHz
                (NE Link MPP Link)
                > HSF:
                Noctua NH-D14 (NE Link MPP Link)
                > Physical Memory :
                >>>Original RAM (2011-01) : G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ
                >>>Upgrade RAM (2012-01) : Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) w/FrostByte Heatsink Model 998990 (NE Link MPP Link OverClockersClub Dot Com Article)
                > Video Card :
                >>>Original Vid Card (2011-01) : BFG Geforce GTX295 (
                NE Link)
                >>>Upgrade Vid Card(2012-01) : (2) EVGA 02G-P3-1568-KR GTX 560 Ti (2GB)-SLI (
                NE Link)
                >>>Upgrade Vid Card(2013-07) : (2) GTX 760-SLI Gigabyte GV-N760OC-4GB (NE Link)
                > DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B ATA Device
                > Monitor :
                ViewSonic Pro Series VP2655wb Black 26" (
                NE Link)
                > Operating System : Windows 7 Ultimate
                > Case : COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel (
                NE Link)

                <<< LGA775 System Summary >>>
                > Power Supply: Corsair 620HX (
                NE Link)
                > Mainboard : Gigabyte P35-S3G (F2 BIOS)
                > Chipset : Intel P35
                > Processor : Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale (Revision C0) 3.0GHz @ 3950 MHz
                > HSF: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
                > Physical Memory : CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) (
                Link)
                > Video Card : BFG Geforce GTX295
                > DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B ATA Device
                >
                Monitor : ViewSonic Pro Series VP2655wb Black 26"
                > Operating System : Windows 7 Ultimate

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: mobo recomendation??

                  Originally posted by Bee_Dee_3_Dee View Post
                  Buy the RAM ProJim has unless he says to get other.
                  Wow, I'm like neighbors with ProJim. I'm real close to Olympia Wa.

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