GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

[Octopuss]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

Don't know if this will help, but my stress testing is always done about 15 minutes after I've booted my system

What do you mean by this?

In fact sometimes (well it happened about 3 times in total) I power off the PC and for some unknown reason I get stuck in reset loop, and it won't go away until I clear the CMOS.
I had to redo the settings based on the template I posted here.

Screw it, went back to 533x7.5, no patience for this crap anymore :(

[profJim]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

For my extended stability tests, I want a level playing field, starting with "clean" start.
The 15 minute wait is for the system to stabilize and complete its initial housekeeping.
Overkill? Maybe.
I use the same approach when performing benchmarks.

**edit** Are you saving various bios settings as profiles? This would simplify things when you need to restore your bios settings and ensure that you've got the exact settings that you want.

[D-an-W]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

I was getting Prime failures in less than an hour with 480x9 (IBT passing fine) so decided to try more DRAM Voltage, upping it from 2.02 to 2.06.

This morning I was presented with a BSOD, of the 00124 variety but checking the Prime results log it occured @ 6hrs 10mins which is kind of, well...an improvement?

I will post back with the template but does anyone have any ideas while I rip out our kitchen?

[Octopuss]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

I found new strength overnight.
Will do last attempt at 540:
loaded optimized settings and redid the template. Let's see. The only change is the memory ref voltages set to auto, VDIMM to 2.1. If it fails, I will increment up to 2.2 and then try the same with 1200 driving strength. If it still fails, I will settle down to 533x7.5, which is still better than what I used to have ages before up until now. Phew.

Ok something is seriously wrong, because what used to be perfectly stable instantly fails. FFS!!!

[D-an-W]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

Check back in the thread, I had the exact same thing happen with me. I think I had to up either MCH Core of VCore to rectify...

[Octopuss]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

But all of a sudden? Wtf!
I refuse to go to 1.3.

[D-an-W]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

All of a sudden yes, exactly.

Why not just test 1.3, whats the worst than can happen (No singing now...)!

I am back to my 6hr **mins failures now with 480x9...

Help!

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Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P (Rev. 1.0) - F10e
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******************************
MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) 
******************************
Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [9X]
x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: +0.0
CPU Frequency ........................: 4.32GHz( 480x9.0)

********** Clock Chip Control ********

>>>>>  Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [ 480]
PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]

>>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter] 
CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
MCH Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]

******** DRAM Performance Control ********

Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Disabled]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [2.00D]
Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: 960
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]

>>>>> Standard Timing Control
x CAS Latency Time................5...: [5]
x tRCD ...........................5...: [   5]
x tRP.............................5...: [   5]
x tRAS...........................15...: [  15]

>>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter] 
x tRRD............................3...: Auto
x tWTR............................3...: Auto
x tWR.............................6...: Auto
x tRFC...........................52...: Auto
x tRTP............................3...: Auto
x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: Auto

>>>>> Channel A Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
x Static tRead Value.............11...: [ [B][COLOR="red"]9[/COLOR][/B]]
x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto

x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto

x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
x DDR Write Training..................: Auto

>>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
x Driving Strength Profile............: [[B][COLOR="red"]OC-1333[/COLOR][/B]]

x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto

x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto

>>>>> Channel B Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
x Static tRead Value.............11...: [ [B][COLOR="red"]9[/COLOR][/B]]
x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto

x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto

x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
x DDR Write Training..................: Auto

>>>>> Channel B Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
x Driving Strength Profile............: [[B][COLOR="Red"]OC-1333[/COLOR][/B]]

x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto

x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto

****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******

Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
-----------------------------------------------
>>> CPU
Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
CPU Vcore..............1.27500V.......: [1.40000V]
CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.320V]
CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.570V]
CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [Normal]
>>> MCH/ICH
MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.320V]
MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.796V] (0.720V with CPU Termination @ 1.200V)
MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [Normal]
ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [1.500V]
ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200V]
>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [[B][COLOR="red"]2.040V[/COLOR][/B]]
DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [Normal]
Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [Normal]
Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [Normal]

******** Advanced BIOS Features ********
Hard Disk Boot Priority...............: [Press Enter]
First Boot Device.....................: [USB-HDD]
Second Boot Device....................: [Hard Disk]
Third Boot Device.....................: [CDROM]
Password Check........................: [Setup]
HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability.............: [Enabled]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect.............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support..................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support................:  Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.....................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology.............: [Disabled]
Delay For HDD (Secs)..................: [ 0]
Full Screen LOGO Show.................: [Disabled]
Backup BIOS Image to HDD..............: [Enabled]
Init Display First....................: [PEG]

******** Integrated Peripherals ********
USB Keyboard Function.................: [Enabled]
USB Mouse Function....................: [Enabled]
USB Storage Function..................: [Disabled]

[Octopuss]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

I don't get it why should the PC screw up all of a sudden!
It just makes no sense at all!
And 1.3MCH is way too much for crappy 540FSB!
Bleh bleh bleh.
I might as well try for 533x8 again instead.
I will retest 533x7.5 (1.28MCH, 1.32500VCORE) fully again, save it, and then either call it a day or continue...

[TweakerOwn]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

And 1.3MCH is way too much for crappy 540FSB!
Bleh bleh bleh.

1.30v MCH is nothing...is the NB getting hot, or can you easily put 1.32-1.36v? How about adding a fan to NB ?

I'm not comfortable putting 1.36v MCH or above, but one day I'm there... you're at 1.30v today...raise ffs !

[TweakerOwn]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

[QUOTE=D-an-W;316438]
I am back to my 6hr **mins failures now with 480x9...

Help!

[CODE]
CPU Clock Drive.......................: [900mV]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [400]
x tRAS...........................15...: [ 18]

x Static tRead Value.............11...: [ 9, 10, 11]
x Driving Strength Profile............: [AUTO?]

MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.796V] (0.720V with CPU Termination @ 1.200V...this is VERY low compared to Quads..0.785v of
1.20v)

MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [AUTO]
DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [AUTO]
Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [AUTO]
Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [AUTO]

[Octopuss]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

1.30v MCH is nothing...is the NB getting hot, or can you easily put 1.32-1.36v? How about adding a fan to NB ?

I'm not comfortable putting 1.36v MCH or above, but one day I'm there... you're at 1.30v today...raise ffs !

I already got a fan there... So the temperature is not a problem... But I just hate the feel :D lol I know, but... really ffs, ugh... :D

[Octopuss]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

Allright, I decided to ditch the FSB because I can't tell whether I run into memory limits or not (which makes the testing more complicated), and try for 533x8 again.
So far I had absolutely no luck with:
1.38750VCORE and normal CPU ref, and whole range of 1.2-1.36VTT - instant Prime failure.

Getting onto the same track with [email protected].
Don't tell me my CPU needs 1.4+ VCORE for 4.2GHZ damnit!

[Psycho101]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

It's possible. It may do 4.2GHz nicely on super low Vcore with max multi, but that high of a FSB may be playing with it's head. 540FSB is like me smoking a phat joint after not seeing even a sniff of the stuff for 5 years. When one has tolerance it's a chill out smoke, but when you're completely fresh it can be a right trip

Maybe your CPU is tripping, ie either it's at its stable FSB limit or it needs a disproportional bit of encouragement in the form of voltage.

Keep tinkering. I know you're capable. It may be though that you're fighting a difficult, if not impossible battle. If my E7400 has a FSB limit (with my config) of 425 FSB, yours may reasonably be at the 500-550 mark.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

All this testing and these PC's may die or run away before you enjoy them

[Octopuss]

Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

lol even my old 533x7.5 is not stable anymore
what the hell
voodoo...