New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

[Danial]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

Well... Only setup all worked, and so did the new setup with the new ram and the settings posted above. Now I am wondering if this is just because of incompatibilities with the HyperX? The last time I had stable installs in windows was when I ran on a pair of the HyperX's and now it is stable on a pair of Corsairs. So not sure if I will have problems if I were to add in two more corsairs as well?

[profJim]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

Running with 4x2GB will require MCH Core to be set a bit higher.
With 8GB of 1066 memory, the memory speed often needs to be under-clocked a bit from the full rated speed. With ddr2-800 memory this might not be an issue.

[Psycho101]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

So can I just confirm... all is well with the Corsair installed?

If I were you I'd RMA the Kingston anyway, it can't hurt. You may get a different internal revision of the same model too. You see on the Corsair, they have a version number? That indicates that different memory chips are being used than the previous version of the same model, or that they revised circuit board design. If you're lucky enough to get a sealed set, you can e-Bay them for a decent price, or give them your mate in exchange for the Corsair, as a thank you.

profJim is right, as usual, good advice. 8GB can be troublesome, and unless you're editing video/audio, running virtual machines or doing CAD (3D rendering), you'll see no benefit at the moment. You could end up with the new Corsair being a different version number to your current sticks too, meaning they aren't quite identical, leading to more issues.

[Danial]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

Yes all is well with the Corsairs and all is also well with the old pc with the hyperx it seems.

My question is: Was I having issues because the EP45-UD3P cant correctly work with 4x1 HyperX sticks? this I ask because when I had 2x either of my hyperx (new/old) in things were good (I didnt extensively test this). Or is my board bad where it cant handle any 4x# set of RAM, since I only have 2x2 Corsairs right now which is working, and the only way I had windows be stable with the HyperX was 2x1?

Not sure if that question makes sense. But I do understand that having 8gigs of ram can be troublesome. And I have not planned on getting anything more at this point.

[profJim]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

Under normal circumstances 4x1GB is not a problem.

There are quite a few threads where a certain brand or model of memory didn't work well with some mobos, yet worked perfectly in a different brand or model mobo.

This is why it's so important to perform extended stress/stability testing, even you don't overclock your system.

[Psycho101]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

Any config involving all slots being populated. We hear of more problems with 4 x 2GB, probably because it's getting to the point where 2GB modules are just so much more popular than 1GB ones now. It's also likely that you'd run into problems if you were rich enough to afford the high priced 4 x 4GB configuration.

If two sticks works with the UD3P, and in any combination of the 4 modules (ie there's no duff sticks) and 4 modules fails, then the only conclusion is that 4 modules being inserted is the problem. It could be that they're different internal revisions, and aren't playing nice with each other or it could just be that the UD3 doesn't like those particular modules in a 4 x 1GB config.

So in short, any situation where you're filling all slots can be a pain in the arse. This also carries over to the relatively new Core i7 platform too, although to what extent I don't know. I don't have much interest in i7 as of yet.

[Danial]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

Ahh ok, so the UD3P is just very very picky when it comes to settings on 4x any ram and they ram you have is a different revision. The funny thing was I was just about to excuse the ram all together because of the fact that my 4x1 setup had passed the memtest86+ test for 6 passes.

Another question I have is where did you get the advanced timings from? (that is the ones I posted last which I am currently using) I mean I understand the 4-4-4-12 and 800. Also I noticed with this new ram the timing was already at 800, but I did still set 2.40B.

Also an Update: Things are running smoothy still and the old pc is also running so now I have myself a backup pc just in case :)

[Danial]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

Update on this:

Everything seems to be running ok, only thing that happened twice today is that as soon as I moved my mouse to wake my monitor up from sleep I got BSOD and when I got back into windows the solution finder said "NVIDIA Graphics Driver has stopped working properly." both times. Now I do have the latest drivers from nvidia. Not really sure why I am getting BSODs though.

Other then that everything else is running fine :)

[Psycho101]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

Glad your system is running ok.

The BSOD sounds like a driver bug. Hopefully the next rlease will solve the problem. If not, I'd disable turning off the monitor and do it yourself if you leave the machine. A bit awkward, but it's what I do, and means you save power right away, rather than waiting x minutes.

[Danial]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

You know I guess I dont see any issues in that, not sure why I ever stopped just clicking the power button. Maybe I used to forget? Damn drivers! lol

[Danial]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

Hmm after it failed a few other times, I decided to put in my 8800GTS and everything started running smoothing, so I RMAed my 260 and now the new one runs just fine. The evga guy said that its possible that the one I had, had a faulty memory module.

On another note, dont know if there is actually a fix to this or not, but if you recall I have my OS installed on a raid-0 hooked into sata0/1 from the 6 intel headers, and I have my other raid-0 hooked into the gsata ports. I do have the hard-drives sleep after a certain time, but when the gsata (none-os) raid returns from sleep the entire system freezes while the two are booted back up again then resumes. Is there a way to prevent this or is there nothing I can really do here? (other then not allowing it to sleep)

[gampamu]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

Didn't see this thread earlier. Daniel, which 1G HyperX modules do you have? I am running 4-KHX9200's on the EP45-UD3P without any problems beyond DDR2 1200.

[Danial]

Re: New Build: Q8400 + EP45-UD3P + HyperX -- Possible Memory/OS Install issues?

Oh they were KHX6400's, and I switched to whats currently in there are corsairs and those are running fine.