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  • Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

    ---UPDATE---The ICH10R/DO is for digital office. http://www.intel.com/assets/PDF/datasheet/319973.pdf
    When ICH10R is set up as Raid you cannot use SATA/DVD Drives or SATA/PATA partitioned Hard Drives on it. You can however RAID0/1/5/10 and AHCI on it, You would want to use another SATA controller for your PATA/SATA Drives and SATA/DVD Drives.

    By artdrivers at 2009-06-28
    Last edited by artdrivers; 06-28-2009, 08:38 AM.
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  • #2
    Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

    Actually you can have both RAID and non-RAID disks on the ICHxR's simultaneously. The non-RAID disks will operate in the AHCI mode.
    QX9650 batch L739A761/ GA-EP45-UD3P/ Kingston KHX9200 4x1G

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    • #3
      Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

      Not true. I have been running a 4 disk RAID array along with non-RAID disks on the ICHxR's for years. PATA is not supported by the ICHxR's.

      Edit: looks like the op has removed the post I responded to.
      Last edited by gampamu; 06-27-2009, 09:10 PM.
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      • #4
        Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

        I wish it were as easy as that.
        Advanced Host Controller Interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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        • #5
          Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

          It actually is, speaking from experience.

          Edit: Issues addressed in your wiki link, applies only when non-AHCI system disk (one containing the OS) is run in AHCI mode. If that is the problem you're referring to, there are fixes for that. For XP: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=444831 and for Vista: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976. For all non-OS disks, they work fine in both AHCI and non-AHCI envirnment.
          Last edited by gampamu; 06-27-2009, 05:32 PM.
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          • #6
            Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

            OK! I can SATA/AHCI/IDE and SATA/AHCI/RAID but if I want to RAID and use my SATA/PATA drive and SATA DVD drive, it would be much simpler to put them on another SATA controller, and forget about the AHCI and Vista. This way I also do not have the problems that the AHCI causes when swithching hard drives and different operating systems.
            I am going to leave the AHCI alone. It is not for my desktop. http://www.intel.com/technology/serialata/ahci.htm
            Thats a good article though Thanks
            Last edited by artdrivers; 06-27-2009, 07:42 PM.
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            • #7
              Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

              Artdrivers, good luck to you.
              QX9650 batch L739A761/ GA-EP45-UD3P/ Kingston KHX9200 4x1G

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              • #8
                Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

                I have NON RAID SATA Hard (Storage, and or a second RAID) drives and CD Drives connected to my ICH10R, and have in the past on previous chipsets as well with no issues at all.

                The additional drives that are not a part of your RAID Array will just show up as NON RAID Members is all as you can see in these images (All connected to ICH10R W/ Dual RAID's setup (3x ST3250410AS) + 1 NON RAID Storage Drive (ST3500320AS) + 1 Asus DVD Drive) >>>





                Are you unclear on whether you can or not, or are you trying to say something else? I am not sure here with the deleted comments and such. If you do need some help with your setup let us know, we can help. And if you do, please don't delete your comments, although I can read them others cannot and maybe they could have answered you already.

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                • #9
                  Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

                  I don't know how you can make it any clearer :>) It's clear now and thanks for the information.
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                  http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/FileList...ios_qflash.pdf
                  Phenom II 945 @ 3.2Ghz w/Thermaltake Big Typhoon Pro 14 CPU Cooler
                  Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
                  Sapphire 3870HD / 100225L / 512MB / ddr4
                  4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
                  (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
                  (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
                  (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
                  Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
                  Mid size ATX case with show through panel
                  2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
                  Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
                  Logitech G500 USB mouse
                  Monitor: CMV937A
                  7.1+2 Channel High Definition ALC889A
                  Dual boot Windows 7 32bit home & Windows 7 64bit home

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                  • #10
                    Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

                    Googling does show that not all SATA DVD drives "have behaved" in AHCI mode, although that is more insufficient compatibility than intentional lack of it. Since DVD drives do not make use of AHCI features, they just have to communicate with the AHCI controller.

                    Btw, there is no "PATA/SATA formatted" HDD that would be different from "AHCI formatted". It is just the language used by OS and controller that is different between IDE and AHCI, not the content of the disk. If the format would differ, then one could not enable/disable AHCI on an existing setup.


                    @Lsdmeasap: Fancy setup of LUNs.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

                      So you all good then? Sorry, I thought a few images would be best for anyone who may be confused later on down the road.

                      @mv2devnull

                      LUN's? What do you mean?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

                        I never managed to AHCI I RAID and IDE on this one. Because I spent 2 days trying to get the drivers to work on this motherboard and just gave up with the AHCI I don't need it any way. But I do know that others do so I am trying to learn a little of it by googling, and going to forums like here. Thanks for your info it helps.
                        Communication is the Expressway to Information
                        Last edited by artdrivers; 06-28-2009, 09:33 PM.
                        http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ench-test.html
                        http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/FileList...ios_qflash.pdf
                        Phenom II 945 @ 3.2Ghz w/Thermaltake Big Typhoon Pro 14 CPU Cooler
                        Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
                        Sapphire 3870HD / 100225L / 512MB / ddr4
                        4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
                        (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
                        (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
                        (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
                        Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
                        Mid size ATX case with show through panel
                        2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
                        Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
                        Logitech G500 USB mouse
                        Monitor: CMV937A
                        7.1+2 Channel High Definition ALC889A
                        Dual boot Windows 7 32bit home & Windows 7 64bit home

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                        • #13
                          Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

                          Originally posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
                          @mv2devnull

                          LUN's? What do you mean?
                          Silly me. Logical Units, shouldn't have called them LUNs. The two logical volumes on one physical array of three drives.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

                            What is with the ahci Why do you need it if you are not hot swapping?
                            http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ench-test.html
                            http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/FileList...ios_qflash.pdf
                            Phenom II 945 @ 3.2Ghz w/Thermaltake Big Typhoon Pro 14 CPU Cooler
                            Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
                            Sapphire 3870HD / 100225L / 512MB / ddr4
                            4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
                            (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
                            (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
                            (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
                            Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
                            Mid size ATX case with show through panel
                            2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
                            Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
                            Logitech G500 USB mouse
                            Monitor: CMV937A
                            7.1+2 Channel High Definition ALC889A
                            Dual boot Windows 7 32bit home & Windows 7 64bit home

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                            • #15
                              Re: Intel ICH10R/DO and RAID How many drives?

                              Need? Who needs? In that Ned Slider's article was three main advantages.
                              Counting out hotswap leaves two. Staggered spinup counts with multiple
                              drives, but then you probably use RAID, so that is not a "plain AHCI" plus.

                              Which leaves the NCQ. Re-ordering of multiple accesses in order to minimize
                              head movements. And multiple reads imply multiple processes, or at least
                              threads. Makes a notable difference on servers, but they don't usually do
                              "plain AHCI" either.

                              Thus, most of us use either IDE or RAID. RAID does use AHCI, but that is
                              irrelevant. Hotswappers are a logical crowd for the plain AHCI.

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