EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

[daniel266]

Newegg.com - OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2G10664GK - Desktop Memory
Psu 550 W

[artdrivers]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

Set your memory timings and voltage to manufactured specifications.

Model OCZ2G10664GK
Type 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
Tech Spec
Capacity 4GB (2 x 2GB)
Speed DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
Cas Latency 5
Timing 5-6-6-18
Voltage 2.1V
Features 2.15V EVP

[Chike]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

I'd first check that the orb is not in contact with the NB heatsink or pushing it up, and make sure the NB heatsink is seated properly. It should get warm or even hot while the computer is under load, if ti feels cool than there might be a problem.

Post your BIOS settings with a screen capture of MemSet main and spd windows, and also HWMonitor (CPUID) window, for a more complete picture.
Put you system specs in your sugnature, this will become handy when the threads gets longer.

[artdrivers]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

You can find that monitoring software here.-----> http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/late...y-tools-30530/

[daniel266]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

Hi here is the picture the vcore under load goes to 1.312

[Chike]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

The memory does not have EPP profile?
Please fill the following template with your own settings and post it back.
It's just a template, ugnore the values in it replace them with your own settings, the defaults on the left and those that are entered.
Delete lines that are not applicable to your board.

Motherboard: Model:  Rev#:  Bios Version:
Cpu: Model
Ram: Brand, Model/Part#, Link to your ram's specs
Power Supply Unit: Brand, Model#, Wattage

Default settings for new setups that are not overclocked.

note: replace all ?? with the value displayed in your bios.
----> Replace "Auto" with manually set values.

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto] <--- FAST is OK
CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [##]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] < ignore if not available
CPU Frequency ---------------------: ####

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [Mhz]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [Auto] <--- Set to 100, never leave this on Auto

C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Turbo] <--- set to DISABLED when overclocking
Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled] <--- Leave this Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time -------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRCD  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRP --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRAS  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tWTR  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRFC  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRTP  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking

Channel A
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
CPU
Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Vcore --------------- 1.?????  ---- : [Auto] <--- set to the 1.????? value

CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking
CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking

CPU Reference ----------- 0.755V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly
CPU Reference2 ---------- 0.800V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly

MCH/ICH
MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to 1.20 for 2x2GB ram (1.24 - 1.26, or 1.05 might be needed)
MCH Reference ----------- 0.800V ------- : [Auto]
MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V  ------ : [Auto]
ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the max rated ram voltage (for most memory)
DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function  --------------------- : [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled] <--- Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect  ------------- : [Enabled] <--- set to Disabled when overclocking (this must be enabled to flash or boot from a USB drive)

[artdrivers]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

I believe you need to download and post your results for (CPUID HWmonitor 1.14) you can find it here ----> CPUID

[daniel266]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

Motherboard: EP 43 DS3L Bios <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:metricconverter w:st="on" ProductID="8 f">8 f</st1:metricconverter> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Cpu: Intel Q 6600 <o:p></o:p>
Ram: Ocz ddr2 1066 Gold edition http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_8500_gold_edition_4gb_dual_channel<o: p></o:p>
Power Supply Unit: Hec 550 W <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)<o:p></o:p>
Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto] <o:p></o:p>
CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : 9x<o:p></o:p>
CPU Frequency ---------------------: 2.4<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Clock Chip Control<o:p></o:p>
Standard Clock Control<o:p></o:p>
CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]<o:p></o:p>
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [266]<o:p></o:p>
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : 100<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]<o:p></o:p>
CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800<o:p></o:p>
PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 800<o:p></o:p>
CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<<o:p></o:p>
MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
DRAM Performance Control<o:p></o:p>
Performance Enhance ------------------- : Standard<o:p></o:p>
Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled] <o:p></o:p>
(G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto] <o:p></o:p>
Standard Timing Control<o:p></o:p>
CAS Latency Time -------- ?? ---------- : 5<o:p></o:p>
tRCD ------------------- ?? ---------- : 6
tRP --------------------- ?? ---------- : 6
tRAS ------------------- ?? ---------- : 18
<o:p></o:p>
Advanced Timing Control<o:p></o:p>
tRRD ------------------- ?? ---------- : Auto] 3<o:p></o:p>
tWTR ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto] 3<o:p></o:p>
tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto] 6<o:p></o:p>
tRFC ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto] 195<o:p></o:p>
tRTP ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto] 3 <o:p></o:p>
Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Channel A<o:p></o:p>
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto] 7<o:p></o:p>
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <o:p></o:p>
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps<o:p></o:p>
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Channel B<o:p></o:p>
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto] 7<o:p></o:p>
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <o:p></o:p>
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps<o:p></o:p>
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Motherboard Voltage Control<o:p></o:p>
CPU Vcore --------------- 1.325<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
CPU Termination --------- 1.2<o:p></o:p>
CPU PLL ----------------- 1.550<o:p></o:p>
CPU Reference ----------- 0.805<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
MCH/ICH <o:p></o:p>
ICH I/O ----------------- 1.550V
DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V
<o:p></o:p>
Advanced Settings<o:p></o:p>
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]<o:p></o:p>
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]<o:p></o:p>
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]<o:p></o:p>
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]<o:p></o:p>
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]<o:p></o:p>
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]<o:p></o:p>
CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]<o:p></o:p>
Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled] <o:p></o:p>
Integrated Peripherals<o:p></o:p>
Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Enabled] __________________

[Chike]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

The MCH Core is missing in your settings, and why the 195 tRFC does it do any better than the default?
For defaut memory speed (DDR-800) I'd leave all timing on autom with DRAM voltage 1.8-1.9v, for DDR-8500 change only the standard, leave advanced on auto.
This settings is stable or you still having crashes?

[daniel266]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

The Mch core is on 1.1 have tried 1.3 but crash with this settings more offten
with the 195 tRFC setting is more stable but still crashing on games

What else can i do???

[artdrivers]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

Have you tried moving the memory modules to the other slots?

[daniel266]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

the memory modules rirht now are on the yellow slot son dual channel before were on the 3 and 4 slot no dual channel

[artdrivers]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

You should be in DDR2-1&DDR2-3 first if errors try DDR2-2&DDR2-4 and yes you should ad a little MCH core voltage for 4GB and set the memory voltage back to auto 1.8v-1.9v you don't need more ddr2 voltage at DDR800Mhz @ 1066Mhz you would. But set the settings on auto initially.

[daniel266]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

Mch Core 1.3 Wont Boot at all i was unable to enter teh BIOS HAD TO short circuit it but was creppy ...some symbols appear on the screen an then black .....the mem voltage is on 1.8 v

[artdrivers]

Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

So you cleared cmos and put the memory in slot 2 and 4 right?