Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

[maelstorm1]

Ok let me see if you guys come up with the same conclusion i have. After reading a few posts here i've gone and updated to 3 different bioses *currently running now the latest beta one.


step 1 reseat cpu also check socket for bent pins. i've done this 3 times.

step 2 load the FC bios over the original factory loaded bios.

still happening

step 3 load the latest beta bios fe1


now something makes me suspect the ram

Bios is showing 4 gigs of ram .. windows reports 6 gigs but only 4 useable.

the ram:

3 sticks 2 gig ocz ocz3g1600lv6gk r


slots 1 3 and 5 are populated 4 gigs in bios .. 6 gigs reported in Win 7 4 useable

slots 1 3 populated 2 gigs in bios (din't bother loading into win7

slot 1 populated .. does not boot.

try slot 1 with each stick. still does not boot.

try 2 different sticks in slot 1 and 3 .. 2 gigs reported in bios.

I still get the friggin recovering lost dram size.


I think i may have a slot 1 for my ramstick and the ram is fine.

timings on ram is set to 8/8/8/24 qpi voltage is set to 1.33 (i think i have to endure reboots to doublecheck) and dram voltage 1.64 (i'd have to boot back into bios to double check but would mean another multiple reboots till i can check forum again.


(this was a package deal from an online retailer not naming to avoid any advertising)

anything easle i can try?

[wazza300]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

can you post some close up pics of the cpu socket? the whole socket in one pic so folks can look at all the pins?
i know youve checked but if one of the ram slots appears to be dead it can either be the slot itself or a bent cpu socket pin because the memory controller will be inside the cpu itself

[maelstorm1]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

I'll have to tear down the entire cpu to get the pictures done (back plate does not allow me to unscrew the nuts holding the coolermaster cpu cooler.

i've poped out the ram sticks and cleaned them and the slots also .. repling back in a few hrs if i can get the pics done.

[maelstorm1]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

ok .. tore the whole pc down again .. re-cleaned rewired and took best pics i could:















i'm hoping if i do have to have this board set in there is a way to get one sent to me and then i can send this one back in the packaging *This pc can't be down for very long .. allready caught hell for having this one down long enough to take pics and recheck cleaning / wiring.*


edit:

the memory timing settings were gotten from OCZ forums to a responce with another user using exact same memory modules and this motherboard.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?79893-X58A-UD3R-with-OCZ3G1600LV6GK&highlight=ga-x58a-ud3r

re edit:

the memory model is:

ocz ocz3g1600lv6gk r (1600 triple channel ddr3, timings 8/8/8/24 qpi/vtt voltage 1.35 dram voltage 1.65 cmd rate 2)

[wazza300]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

its a bit hard to see the area where ive marked but the pattern of the pins seem out of place? like a possible bent pin/pins?

[maelstorm1]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

god my eyes must not be what they should be lol. i'll have to tear this pc down again. Well what is my recourse? try unbend em using a needle and magnifying glass? really don't want take a chance i kill this board as i can't have this pc down.

[wazza300]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

im only going off the pics,they might be fine but i would certainly check those areas very carefully,look at an angle so the light reflects off the pins and look for a nice uniformed pattern,if any are out of shape then its no good,you could try and pull them back into place if you try and catch the tip thats sticking up but be carefull not to break any off,if you wanted to rma then gigabyte should repair them

i know its a pain taking things apart but worth it if you find out what it is,the board will run fine in dual channel mode as in take out the ram stick thats not showing up and run on 4gb/dual channel untill after christmas and then you could rma it,or try yourself but be carefull

[maelstorm1]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

i tried dual channel setup and it only saw 2 gigs of ram when i did that . and still gave the recovering lost dram size.

i'm guessing one or two of those pins are affecting the 1st socket.

interesting thing to note is 2nd pic of the bios i posted


dim slot 2 gig - 2 gig - 2 gig
enabled slot - 2 gig 2 gig - ( missing 2 gig here) seems last socket not enabled? but i get same problem with only 2 sticks)
total memory 4 gig


2 sticks:

dim slot 2 gig - 2 gig - -
enabled slot - 2 gig - - -

total memory 2 gig

i'm guessing one of those pins are affecting just the way it works with the ram. I've got an advanced rma with the online retailer so i'll have another board onhand to swap out in a few days and send this one back.

btw nice setup watched a few of your vids. once i got this bird running for a few months error free i'll look into overclocking it up.

[wazza300]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

ive had the same thing on an asus mb,it would see all 6gb but say 6gb installed(4gb)available in windows,looked at cpu socket and there was one single bent pin,i managed to pull it back into place and its been flawless since,so im thinking it has to be a similar problem with your mb,and yh these boards are great even with a mid range gpu like mine they perform great in games even at stock cpu clocks

good luck with the rma

[maelstorm1]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

Update: Just got the RMA board in. no pins bent and perfectly works.


note: in bios screen where you see the inconsistency of the ram spacing (1st picture) now the ram shows:


2g - 2g - 2g
2g - 2g - 2g


6 gigs ram


so yea the bent pins were it.


Thanks for the advice!

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

Nice to see you had a quick RMA!!

Awesome you now have all 6GB too, enjoy the new board!

[jyokom]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

I have the same problem. I get the recovering lost DRAM size. It only recognizes 8GB of the 12GB RAM. It does this three times before it boots. The Graphics card only works with generic VGA drivers.

System is as follows:
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Motherboard
Intel BX80613i7980X Core i7 980X Extreme Edition Processor - 3.33GHz, LGA 1366
Patriot PV7312G1600LLK Sector 7 12GB PC12800 RAM - DDR3, 1600MHz, 3x4096MB, 8-8-8-24, Non-ECC, Unbuffered
EVGA 015-P3-1480-AR GeForce GTX 480 Video Card - 1536MB GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0, Dual DVI, HDMI, SLI, DirectX 11, Fermi
Ultra X3 ULT40311 1000-Watt Power Supply
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64BIT

I haven't been able to find bent pins but it is very difficult to see.
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[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

Pics are a bit fuzzy, and too close and too much flash, but I do see a bent pin or two I think.

Here for sure



Have you already tried 1.35-1.45/1.5 QPI/Vtt? If so you may need to RMA the board for the bent pins, unless you can fix them (It's very tricky since they are so thin)

[Psycho101]

Re: Yet another ga-x58a-ud3r v2.0 recovering lost dram size

Well spotted. I saw the same thing.

Agreed. Fixing them is a right pain. a whittled down c0cktail stick and a hair drier can work (heat the socket then bend the pin back) but it's tricky.

Definitely RMA the board IMO, then be ultra careful when inserting the CPU and mounting the heat sink. Common causes of bent pins are a roughly inserted (not as naughty as it sounds) CPU or too much pressure from the heat sink mounts.